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数学vs统计学
« 于: 三月 08, 2009, 03:27:10 下午 »
数学和统计学大概有什么分别?
大概读些什么的?
想更了解,还在犹豫着要拿什么??
1st year精算,数学和统计学是一起上课的吗???
是不是很多人拿这两科的都去考精算的external paper。。
数学和统计学哪个又比较容易应付external paper???
问了这么多问题。。真paiseh。。

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #1 于: 三月 08, 2009, 04:35:37 下午 »
数学和统计学大概有什么分别?
大概读些什么的?
想更了解,还在犹豫着要拿什么??
1st year精算,数学和统计学是一起上课的吗???
是不是很多人拿这两科的都去考精算的external paper。。
数学和统计学哪个又比较容易应付external paper???
问了这么多问题。。真paiseh。。

我相信这两科的科系简介你都已经从全升网站看了,对吗?
数学都常都会more on theory。
STQM1113 Kalkulus I
STQM1123 Kalkulus II
STQM1223 Aljabar Linear
STQM2133 Kalkulus Pemboleh Ubah Kompleks
STQM2543 Mekanik Klasik dan Kuantum
STQM2343 Persamaan Beza dan Terbitan
STQM3153 Analisis Nyata
STQM3253 Struktur Aljabar
STQM3453 Strategi dan Kawalan
STQM3563 Beberapa Isu Pilihan dalam Matematik Industri

统计学是应用数学,那就是学如何做survey form。 Hipotesis。Modelling。 一些statistic 的software等等。。
STQS1113 Statistik I
STQS1123 Statistik II
STQS2133 Pentaabiran Statistik
STQS2233 Pemodelan Statistik
STQS2243 Tinjauan dan Pensampelan
STQS2443 Statistik Industri
STQS3253 Kaedah Multivariat
STQS3353 Reka Bentuk Uji Kaji dan Analisis
STQS3453 Statistik Sosial
STQS3163 Proses Stokastik
(如想知道更多资料可到 http://pkukmweb.ukm.my/~ppsmfst/  ;D
例如:我们去收集sample,然后算出analisis,看几多巴仙选这个或其他的?做一个kesimpulan。通常都是算的比较多。

在UKM,1st year精算,数学和统计学都会在一起上课的。
normally是statistic的去考精算的external paper。 其实,是要看个人那时要不要去考,而不是看course的。这是个付费考试,所以谁都能考这paper,只要你有兴趣。分别的是学生考会有discount。更多详情可到该网站查看。
当第一年生进到UKM时,actuari的senior都会集合全部junior,然后告诉大家详情,问大家是否要报名等等。

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数学和统计学哪个又比较容易应付external paper???
external paper 考的东西通常在学校只动到一点,全部都需要自己买书或photostat notes然后自己读。senior都会有notes。
我有些朋友考external paper的,会问actuari的几时上课?然后一起上课。这样会明白actuari是读什么,有时对external paper少许帮助。
最重要是要很努力及勤劳。。

建议你也可到UPM及USM去了解这两个科系及比较跟UKM的有什么分别。
加油哦! ;D

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #2 于: 三月 08, 2009, 05:23:37 下午 »
Please forgive me to reply in English because it's faster to type. (If there's problem understanding this please let me know..)

If Mathematics is a Main Topic, then Statistics (tong3 ji4 xue2) and Actuarial (jing1 shuan4 xue2) can be considered as two of the subtopics of Mathematics.

A pure mathematics course deal with a different kind of maths, including calculus (engineering maths), statistics, operational research, logic, other applied math, etc... And this would probably much focusing on derivative of the mathematics terms, deal with theories and formulas.

An Applied mathematics course (such as Bac Deg in Industrial Mathematics in UTM) would deal mostly with applied maths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_mathematics), also include calculus (engineering maths), statistics, operational research, logic, other applied math, etc... , but more focus on APPLICATION on industry.

A Statistics major Maths course would of course focus on application of statistics (there are many, you may find it in Wikipedia or Google it) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fields_of_application_of_statistics).

If you want to take actuarial, you would have to take courses based on Actuarial Science or Actuary. This is because this Degree would deal with much deeper knowledge on Actuarial(jing1 shuan4 xue2) itself, such as Risk Analysis, some applied mathematics , and of course Statistics (because statistics is one of the important element in Actuarial). I think that any Maths major can take the paper, but the problem is that whether your knowledge could deal with the paper or not. Self-study is a must then.

You may also refer http://www.actuaries.org.my/default.asp?p=11 According to Actuarial Society of Malaysia, only Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM), University Tunku Abdul Rahman (UTAR), University Malaya (UM) offering the papers.

Hope this might help you clear about different Maths Major!

From: ShinInn (Bac Deg of Industrial Maths in UTM, Final Year)
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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #3 于: 三月 08, 2009, 05:49:48 下午 »
我相信这两科的科系简介你都已经从全升网站看了,对吗?
数学都常都会more on theory。
STQM1113 Kalkulus I
STQM1123 Kalkulus II
STQM1223 Aljabar Linear
STQM2133 Kalkulus Pemboleh Ubah Kompleks
STQM2543 Mekanik Klasik dan Kuantum
STQM2343 Persamaan Beza dan Terbitan
STQM3153 Analisis Nyata
STQM3253 Struktur Aljabar
STQM3453 Strategi dan Kawalan
STQM3563 Beberapa Isu Pilihan dalam Matematik Industri

统计学是应用数学,那就是学如何做survey form。 Hipotesis。Modelling。 一些statistic 的software等等。。
STQS1113 Statistik I
STQS1123 Statistik II
STQS2133 Pentaabiran Statistik
STQS2233 Pemodelan Statistik
STQS2243 Tinjauan dan Pensampelan
STQS2443 Statistik Industri
STQS3253 Kaedah Multivariat
STQS3353 Reka Bentuk Uji Kaji dan Analisis
STQS3453 Statistik Sosial
STQS3163 Proses Stokastik
(如想知道更多资料可到 http://pkukmweb.ukm.my/~ppsmfst/  ;D
例如:我们去收集sample,然后算出analisis,看几多巴仙选这个或其他的?做一个kesimpulan。通常都是算的比较多。

在UKM,1st year精算,数学和统计学都会在一起上课的。
normally是statistic的去考精算的external paper。 其实,是要看个人那时要不要去考,而不是看course的。这是个付费考试,所以谁都能考这paper,只要你有兴趣。分别的是学生考会有discount。更多详情可到该网站查看。
当第一年生进到UKM时,actuari的senior都会集合全部junior,然后告诉大家详情,问大家是否要报名等等。
external paper 考的东西通常在学校只动到一点,全部都需要自己买书或photostat notes然后自己读。senior都会有notes。
我有些朋友考external paper的,会问actuari的几时上课?然后一起上课。这样会明白actuari是读什么,有时对external paper少许帮助。
最重要是要很努力及勤劳。。

建议你也可到UPM及USM去了解这两个科系及比较跟UKM的有什么分别。
加油哦! ;D


谢谢你给这样多资料。。
统计学和数学哪个比较容易读??前途应该都一样不错吧。。
你说很多人都去跟精算的学生一起上课。。真的可以这样吗??可以进别班上课的哦??
可以的话那就太好了。。
请问你是精算系的吗??
很多人多刷哦数学和统计学都差不多一样的。。真的是这样吗?


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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #4 于: 三月 08, 2009, 05:57:31 下午 »
Please forgive me to reply in English because it's faster to type. (If there's problem understanding this please let me know..)

If Mathematics is a Main Topic, then Statistics (tong3 ji4 xue2) and Actuarial (jing1 shuan4 xue2) can be considered as two of the subtopics of Mathematics.

A pure mathematics course deal with a different kind of maths, including calculus (engineering maths), statistics, operational research, logic, other applied math, etc... And this would probably much focusing on derivative of the mathematics terms, deal with theories and formulas.

An Applied mathematics course (such as Bac Deg in Industrial Mathematics in UTM) would deal mostly with applied maths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_mathematics), also include calculus (engineering maths), statistics, operational research, logic, other applied math, etc... , but more focus on APPLICATION on industry.

A Statistics major Maths course would of course focus on application of statistics (there are many, you may find it in Wikipedia or Google it) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fields_of_application_of_statistics).

If you want to take actuarial, you would have to take courses based on Actuarial Science or Actuary. This is because this Degree would deal with much deeper knowledge on Actuarial(jing1 shuan4 xue2) itself, such as Risk Analysis, some applied mathematics , and of course Statistics (because statistics is one of the important element in Actuarial). I think that any Maths major can take the paper, but the problem is that whether your knowledge could deal with the paper or not. Self-study is a must then.

You may also refer http://www.actuaries.org.my/default.asp?p=11 According to Actuarial Society of Malaysia, only Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM), University Tunku Abdul Rahman (UTAR), University Malaya (UM) offering the papers.

Hope this might help you clear about different Maths Major!

From: ShinInn (Bac Deg of Industrial Maths in UTM, Final Year)

thx 4 reply
if i want 2 work in bank,statistic o math which 1 more suitable 4 me 2 study??
i vry interest in acturial science,
bt it is too difficult 2 entry,
so i will take math o statistic
thn take the external paper....

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #5 于: 三月 08, 2009, 06:19:48 下午 »

谢谢你给这样多资料。。
统计学和数学哪个比较容易读??前途应该都一样不错吧。。
你说很多人都去跟精算的学生一起上课。。真的可以这样吗??可以进别班上课的哦??
可以的话那就太好了。。
请问你是精算系的吗??
很多人多刷哦数学和统计学都差不多一样的。。真的是这样吗?



没有说哪个比较容易读的,都会比f6难吧,因为是新的知识哦!其实前途都是大多数一样的。有时间的话,你可看看job requirement,有时stat n maths 的都会在一起的,例如:Bank等等。
不是说很多人,而是有兴趣的人。dewan kuliah 是open的。可能有些不是拿某subject的都会进来上课。最重要是看你有时间吗?因为有时自己的class会跟actuari的课撞时间(more on 2nd n 3rd year)。那你就无法去哦。除非过后有你actuari的朋友教你哦。还有这也表示你们可以一起上课,但考final时,不会与他们一起考试,因你没有daftar,只是进去听课。 ;D

差不多一样应该代表都是学数学吧?因为这两科会拿ekonomi, perniagaan 的一些科目。其他的不一样是major吧?Major真得很不一样。。可到UKM网站了解那major。因为数学的没有学到statistic的major等等。(之前已paste给你了,可看回上面。)

我是statistic的,final year。要毕业了。。 :) 加油!

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #6 于: 三月 15, 2009, 06:37:25 下午 »
for me is the diff between maths and stat also cos of application nia.
stat will be more on application compare to maths
all seniors here already put many info for u guys.
you guys can check out the differences between all uni then only decide.
so far UKM courses in actuarial, stat and maths is quite good for me actually...just the subjects will be a bit pack.
but then we only take 3 years only but UM take 4 years.

external papers, depends on the particular person wan to take or not. seniors will give you guides as u enter.
dont nit worry too much.

and the maths in uni here is totally different with those you guys learn in matrixs and form 6.
think nicely then only decide.

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #7 于: 三月 16, 2009, 10:59:44 下午 »
big_fish,
you are from ukm ?
may i know that is that the statistic course at ukm is learn in malay 1 ?
we need to take ekonomi n perniagaan if we take statistic ?
thanks a lot :D

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #8 于: 三月 16, 2009, 11:27:56 下午 »
big_fish,
you are from ukm ?
may i know that is that the statistic course at ukm is learn in malay 1 ?
we need to take ekonomi n perniagaan if we take statistic ?
thanks a lot :D

Yup,i from UKM de statistic..
It need to depend on the lecturer, some lecturer will use english, some may use malays as teaching language..
v will take ekonomi asas and prinsip pengurusan perniagaan sebagai pilihan bebas.. ia adalah subject yang wajib..
it seem like F6 de economy subject..
actually maths n stat n actuari student oso need to take tis too... not jz stat ppl...
gambateh oh... :D

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #9 于: 三月 17, 2009, 11:00:06 上午 »
seem like F6 de economy subject ? ??? ???
but i'm from science stream,
never take economy before.
will it difficult for the science stream students to study economy & prinsip pengurusan perniagaan?
thanks a lot .  :D

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #10 于: 三月 17, 2009, 11:26:05 上午 »
hi... i'm statistics student from usm...
basically what we learned in usm also same with ukm (according to the subjects big_fish pasted here), but usm statistics students are not compulsory to take economy papers (it is not listed in our syallabus, but you may take it as extra papers if you want to). Our major papers have Quality Control (QC), Design of Experiment (DOE), Time Series Analysis, Multivariate Analysis, and Sampling Survey and Sampling Techniques. From these 5 papers, only Time Series Analysis is touch a bit about economy thing.
Hopefully I'm helping. All the best !!

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #11 于: 三月 17, 2009, 05:18:48 下午 »
may i know that the statistic test at ukm is in malays or english?
how about the notes & books ?
all in english ?
how about um & upm statistic?
taught in english or malays?   ??? ???
thanks.

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #12 于: 三月 17, 2009, 05:34:27 下午 »
seem like F6 de economy subject ? ??? ???
but i'm from science stream,
never take economy before.
will it difficult for the science stream students to study economy & prinsip pengurusan perniagaan?
thanks a lot .  :D

may i know that the statistic test at ukm is in malays or english?
how about the notes & books ?
all in english ?

Actually econ and pengurusan perniagaan is basis only.. so,i oso from science student too.. and tis course more r from science student,bcoz UKM de stat, maths n actuary is open for STPM de science student.. it is as a new knowledge.. :)
Dont worry... :)

Test..actually is depend on lecturer oso... can be malays n english...sometimes teach in english,but exam in malays...
Most probably, lecturer will recommend us to buy which book... Normally is in english de... :)
Notes oso depend on lecturer... sometimes senior notes got malays n english.. bcoz of lecturer wan teach in tat language lo...

I not very sure on UM n UPM.. ::)

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #13 于: 三月 17, 2009, 05:53:31 下午 »
 :o  :o
thanks big_fish.
i'm quite interest in statistic,but i heard that the statistic course at UKM is taught in malays,
so want to know more about it.
thank you for your explaination.  :D

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Re: 数学vs统计学
« 回复 #14 于: 三月 17, 2009, 06:42:58 下午 »
:o  :o
thanks big_fish.
i'm quite interest in statistic,but i heard that the statistic course at UKM is taught in malays,
so want to know more about it.
thank you for your explaination.  :D

erm...tis year UPM de statistic in 4 years edi... so is different with other uni edi... :)
Hope u can choose wat u wan oh...Good luck...